Typing Pitfalls

When attempting to type themselves or others within the Objective Personality System, people make a lot of mistakes. I discussed my personal mistyping story in an article last week. This article covers a few of them to watch out for when you are typing so you can avoid these common pitfalls.

5/6/21 – added introversion and sleep biases
5/22/21 – added activation bias, masculine bias, and F Se vs Ne

Personal Information vs Savior Information – You might have Fi and your feelings are important to you, but that doesn’t make it your savior function that you are processing all day. You might be flipped upside down. Introverted functions are personal, but that doesn’t mean it is what we are actually doing all day long. Savior functions are what we rely on, we trust the information processed by our saviors and will disrespect that information we ourselves have processed if the Extroverted Savior says otherwise.

I want to be my demons – You might see your functions, but think that because you want to be doing your demons that is your type. But we don’t want our saviors. Our saviors are just the lens with which we are naturally view the world day after day. We don’t need to want for our saviors, it is automatic, they become boring. The demons are what take energy and focus to move towards. This is the growth mindset and it is a good thing! But, it can lead to misunderstanding yourself and seeing your type upside down. This can also be seen in identifying with a particular person who is doing your demons and succeeding. “I want to be them.”

“You are naturally going to not want to be your type, but you are going to naturally be attracted to your demon type, your upside down type.”

Dave Powers (he told me to write this down for you)

Peacocking – “I’m proud of this thing I did. Look how smart and awesome I am.” We don’t brag about our saviors or really feel accomplished when we use them. They are automatic. These are the things we are constantly doing. They become boring to us because it is so instant and obvious. We don’t brag about these things because it just comes natural to us and we didn’t have to work at it. Think of the NT person showing off their slick new outfit. They figured out the SF and are flaunting it.

Introversion Bias – In the typology community we are all doing introspection and trying to figure out who we are in relation to everybody else. This often leads to a bias where we are thinking about typology and looking inward at the same time. Thus, we must be introverted (this is also a kind of recency bias). The introverted types are also often seen as deep and intellectual while the extroverts are brash. It is important to remember that we all have these parts of ourselves and what we are looking for goes deeper than any specific character archetype you might imagine.

I’m always tired, I must be sleep first!

Sleep Bias – Similar to introversion bias there has also been a bias towards the Sleep animal as a Savior within the Objective Personality Community. This is likely due to many of the reasons above about Sleep being seen as the deep introversion which of makes you profoundly unique and so of course you feel alone in the world and like no one relates to you. This is a humanity trait more than a Sleep trait. Sleep is about processing for yourself. Understanding how the things you have observed relate back to you and how you make sense of things for yourself (without gathering in anything new). It also isn’t about being tired… this is another common thing for Sleep lasts who may get confused.

Culture Intuitive Bias – Many people exploring Jungian typology develop something of an intuitive bias. This could be for many reasons, one of them being that intuitives seem to be the smart, intellectual ones in many of the type descriptions out there. IQ tests themselves seem to test abstract block banging, favoring the natural tendencies of the NT Types. On one of the most popular websites based on the MBTI, the NT types are the scientists and the SP types are the artisans. In a society where STEM education is being pushed to the forefront, this will naturally bias people to want to have those skills.

Intuition is mysterious? Oh yeah, me too.

Intuition Curiosity – When you first give a name to something that you feel like you have been doing your whole life without putting a name to it, that can lead to people suddenly paying more attention to when they are doing that thing. People coming into typology looking to learn about the patterns are often most curious about intuition and where they can start to see it in themselves. They pay increased attention to it and thus it begins to seem like they are “doing it all the time.” The key is to first understand what intuition is by refining your definitions and understanding before jumping to the conclusion that this is your natural state.

Activation Bias – When someone uses a function or performs a behavior commonly associated with a function frequently, they tend to think that is their type. However, in OPS you really need to look at the Saviors and Demons rather than any sort of frequency of use metrics. Frequency of use is more associated with activation of functions within OPS which is determined by the animals. This is especially important when typing Glass Lizard types who have a double activated last function and a single activated first function.

Masculine Bias – Types which push on a certain type of information are often seen as using that as their savior information. For this reason it is important to understand the difference between Masculine functions and Savior functions. Masculine functions are direct, solid, and pushy. They seek a solid, clear understanding of the information. Savior functions are about confidence and responsibility. We might push on the information from our demons and challenge others on this type of information, but are we responsible for it? What information do we turn to when under stress for the source of truth?

F Se as Ne – Savior F Se is often mistaken for Ne by those still new to the system. The F Se user will have M Ni, making it seem like they are discussing concepts in a scattered manner. Oe + N = Ne right? It is however important to understand exactly how they are discussing the concepts. Is the pattern personal (Ni) with disjointed Sensory (Se) or are the patterns disjointed (Ne) with personal Sensory (Si)? See also F Se vs Ne in Brie Larson.

Any that I missed? Get in touch via our contact page and let me know what other common typing patterns you have seen and I can add them to this article to let people know what to look out for.

OP Videos

Objective Personality has released multiple videos discussing the patterns they are seeing with typing mistakes. Below are the videos and some notes from each of them.

Common Typing Mistakes
  1. Definition of Terms – what do you mean by your definitions. your definitions are not precise enough.
  2. Amazed by middle functions – 3rd function or 3rd animal, “hobby function/animal”. Basically their first demon. It isn’t the hardest thing to do, but its still difficult. They want to move towards it but it isn’t their natural state.
  3. Social Value – types or groups of types are made fun of, so they resist wanting to be those types. ex: intuitive types are good, sensors bad ex2: thinkers smart, feelers dumb
Typing Mistakes

People type themselves upside down. They think they are the opposite type. Projection of the self that is opposite of what you think of yourself. Must finally accept you aren’t naturally in tune with your demons.

  1. Anecdotal Contradictions – EP points to one time they organized and how it was a big deal (peacocking). Not recognizing that the savior is what is coming easy not what was a big deal.
  2. Savior vs Demon State – The spike is not the savior, the spike is a demon state you had to really earn success in. 99% of the time you are doing your savior and the big moment is the demon.
  3. Subjectivism is Default – You don’t have the best view of yourself. Can’t come to this with the mindset of “Nobody understands me.” You need to get the outsider perspective, the extroverted perspective on how you are interacting with others. Trust the other opinions.

People are still typing themselves upside down.

For the sake of growth. You don’t brag about what you already understand. You are excited about the new things you are learning that weren’t obvious to you before. You might actually be good at the demons because you are working at it, but it still isn’t your natural comfort zone.

High value types. The internet builds up an archetype for these types and people want to be that value that they don’t necessarily have.

Not seeing the imbalances. How much time are you spending in the sensory before you actually get to the intuition? How much time are you spending understanding how things work before reflecting on whether you like it or not. You need to actually identify the voids you are leaving by spending so much time in your saviors.

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